Kristijan’s Journey: Healing, Spirituality, and the Wake-Up Method

TAT: What helped first? You mentioned a mysterious Chinese woman, along with Reiki?

KH: Yes, I first started with Aiping Wong; that was my first encounter with something like that. Some guys from Hare Krishna came to me, and I was reading a book before that, I started chanting mantras, and I experienced some first experiences… of something. Not understanding everything at the time. Then the story with Aiping Wong appeared.

I started attending her meditations, and something started to open up. I was with her briefly, for a month, I bought her CD and meditated in that way. However, the real opening started later. A few years later. When I got involved with Reiki.

Then the difficulties began. While a person works, they forget about their problems, work occupies you. I had created a company, I was doing a certain job there. And then it started happening… the company’s downfall… of course, I believe it was orchestrated because it wasn’t my dharmic work. And a search for resolution happened. Again, there was a trigger, as much as I ran away from myself, my daughter who is ill.

I heard about Reiki from a lady and got advice to try it with my daughter. I went to her, and that’s when I first saw Baba’s picture. She had just returned from India and was talking about it.

TAT: That’s what I wanted to ask, how did the first encounter with Sai Baba happen?

KH: Through that woman. I had heard about him before, some people spoke badly about him, and I had a feeling that it wasn’t good. 

But the first encounter, I went to her place, there’s a picture there, and I look at that picture, I can’t say that it attracted me too much, but I had a feeling that there was something there. Intuitively. And that’s where the story with him began. It was all foreign to me at that moment, but that woman inspired confidence. She told me, your daughter is not the problem, you are the problem. You have health problems, she is just your reflection.

When we solve you, that thing will be solved with her. She suggested initiation into Reiki so I could heal myself. I agreed to that. There was an option to go to a man who would heal the child directly by doing Reiki on her, while this woman said – I will initiate you, (for 150 marks – currency at that time) so you can heal yourself. Mathematically, it was more cost-effective for me to learn myself than to constantly pay others.

During the initiation, it was unusual, I felt great energy during the process itself. And that’s when I realized that something was happening there, I joined that community, the woman’s group. We sometimes had workshops within that group. Reiki, socializing, tea, we do Reiki for each other. That’s where I slowly learned it. First degree, then second degree… I was impatient, I wanted to go faster, but she said… not yet, slowly.

TAT: Did the first degree already bear fruit?

KH: Yes, I already felt changes, I went to workshops regularly because I liked it. In any case, it was very interesting, and that’s where the turning point happened when everything started to fall apart. Marriage – so I wasn’t on the same wavelength with my wife, the company started to fail, my entire capital was trapped in the bank but the banks were collapsing en masse at that time. My clients were in the same bank, and they also couldn’t pay because the bank went under.

One weekend we went to a lake in Hungary for the weekend, that’s when my wife and I clashed, it was quite late. I said, you go to sleep, I’m going to meditate. I sat in meditation, and that was my first direct contact when Baba addressed me. His golden figure appeared, and I saw his outlines. At one point, his energy just permeated me, a great feeling of love. I also saw it with my eyes open, and I thought, is this a hallucination or real. He just told me, “Be at peace, everything will be alright, I am with you.” That’s where it started.

Before that, I ran away from books and learning. Later I understood why, I had a past life in which I was constantly learning, I was a friar who transcribed Bibles, and then I decided “never again.”

However, I suddenly felt the urge to read books. I started reading about Baba, his teachings, other people’s experiences with him… On a weekly basis, I read at least one of his books. And he kept sending me books, something was always happening. For example, I open a page on the laptop, there were heaps of PDFs there, at that time copyright laws were not yet resolved as they are today.

Along with Reiki, Sai Baba, my path began, and I started to feel much better. I started doing Reiki for family, friends, etc. I felt that I would love to do that. I was on military retirement, and that was a way to do something instead of just sitting around.

TAT: How did your daughter feel, connected to your healing?

KH: As I felt better and more healed, the child was also better. I have to thank Dubravka who introduced me to all of this, she definitely helped the child, she didn’t have those huge problems, and I started to feel different.

I got the desire to finish the Reiki master degree. I was rushing with it, Dubravka kept saying slowly, until at one point she said that Baba said I was ready.

I started having darshans from Baba in dreams. I would dream, and at one point, I would be permeated by an energy of love and peace. And the screen freezes, as if the whole story stopped. After that, he just walks into the frame. And there he does some kind of play, and you watch it, you don’t understand what he wants to say, but that’s the point. A true teacher, as I understood it, how he taught, he never gives you solutions, but only signposts and guidelines. Like when you get formulas in school, but the formula won’t solve the problem itself.

I was trying to discern what he was trying to tell me. This often happened. During one darshan, I found myself in India with him, he saw me… and it’s interesting how he played with me. I had a friend at that time who played football in Rijeka, he had difficulties with one child… He says, “You are from Rijeka,” I say, “No, I’m from Osijek.” He laughs. He said, “Go to the other room and wait for me.” I arrive, I enter that large room, large wooden doors, and a huge chair… The doors close, I sit down. And I hear the doors opening and then slamming shut violently, and I only see him, how huge he is. He took me in his arms and just started lifting me. I watch what’s happening, madness of energy starts through the body.

The Reiki teacher said, Baba has now opened the way for you, we can now initiate you.

However, in that group, many people came there without working on themselves, they just constantly told the same stories and came for energy. I told Dubravka that this no longer made sense for me.

After that, I continued searching, studying. One day I saw Zdenko Domančić (bioenergy therapist) on television. He was talking about how he healed our handball player Balić, it attracted me tremendously. He solved a problem that no one could solve in two days.

The course was expensive; I couldn’t afford it at that time.

TAT: So your path focused on healing?

KH: Yes. And that group was interesting, they had a vegetarian diet for example.

At one point, Zdenko mentioned Sai Baba in a negative context. I went to the room and said to myself, “Swami, what is this?” I came here, you prepared everything for me, you prepared the money for me, what are these stories now? He said, “I sent you for the technique, you know everything else, don’t pay attention.”

As the course ended, we talked with Zdenko, we received medallions, he blessed them to guide us. And Zdenko had told me, now you will go to Osijek, you will fill halls, because this method is done with many people. And behind him stands Baba and shows something, indicates to me that I should still work individually.

TAT: Is this technique by touch or at a distance?

KH: By contact. But every disease has its own procedure, how to work, how to draw out energy, how to lower energy. Interestingly, his technique is the only one that has resolved gangrene, which medicine couldn’t even dream of. He even tested it in Ljubljana with about a hundred people, and 90-something were healed from gangrene, while others weren’t due to karma. So that was powerful work. But it was specific that Baba said “one-on-one.” And I understood why one-on-one. Because you can’t just remove something from a person, you also have to communicate with them. So I talked to people, opened their consciousness, and at the same time, I cleansed them energetically.

TAT: To make them aware of the causes, the patterns?

KH: Exactly, we always looked for patterns, we always looked for causes, why something happened, what fears they have…

Then I asked him to give me the words I need to say. “You know what they need to hear Baba” is what I told him. I am an open channel, and it flows through me; he conveyed messages through me.

TAT: You mentioned at the workshop that at one point Baba said, enough with healing now, it’s time for new processes? When did that start?

KH: After Zdenko’s technique, I did it for 3-4 years… At one point, I was watching television, Goran Karna was on television mentioning ThetaHealing. He was the first to bring that technique to Croatia from Australia (an Australian Croat).

When I heard about it, I completely went crazy. It promises almost instant healing, as he explained it. Something just clicked in me; I wanted to read the book, but he wouldn’t give me the book because you first have to take the course to get the book. I still found the book in the study library in Osijek, but you’re not allowed to take it out. I read that book every day to absorb what was written there. When I went to the course, it was truly sensational. I did the first and second degrees, and it was a whole new world for me.

I started doing healing, and I worked a lot with the people around me, but I realized that something was missing, there were some shortcomings. You dig, you look for causes, but you don’t reach those deep depths. Because we have karma. And karma determines when.

For example, a person has a problem and wants to solve it. For example, someone wants to solve a problem with a girl, but I get a vision that the person has a problem with, for example, their mother or grandmother, which they must resolve first because it affects the problem with the girl. You can’t “dig” into the girl because you have to do this before that.

TAT: And if a person resolves that problem with, for example, their mother or grandmother, then the path to resolving the situation with the girlfriend would open up, if I understand correctly?

KH: That’s right. However, again, if it’s not the time to resolve the problem with the mother or grandmother, but something else is astrologically predetermined at that stage, then we are actually trying to do things ahead of time, by force.

After that, the part happened when Baba told me, now enough with healing, now you will start awakening people. At that moment, a partner came into my life, she had incredible abilities, clairvoyance, connecting with dimensions, etc. And there we started channeling and bringing down a new technique; Baba guided us through this whole process.

TAT: So in ThetaHealing, that part wasn’t taught, you intuitively saw that you needed to look at karma and individual cases?

KH: Yes. And we received information on how we should look at past lives. She had that ability; I didn’t see it that well. She read it, and I cleansed it. We were like a tandem; we worked together with the client. It went great until she got cancer. Doctors said 2-3 months, but we were together for 8 years and worked together. That was her karma; it couldn’t be removed; she had done her part. Later we found out that she had agreed to it before this life with Saturn. She left her body and remained in contact with me in a way. It was difficult for me; I felt like I had lost someone, and I avoided that contact. Not consciously, but subconsciously. Then I found myself in shock because she was the one looking at past lives, and I had no insight into how to continue working with people.

And then one day it happened that I was in the city and an energy just hit me. That energy of unconditional love that was so strong. I was sitting with friends at a table, and they all started crying. There weren’t any difficult topics being discussed, but rather a feeling appeared. The waiter was sitting next to us and couldn’t move.

TAT: Did it even affect the waiter? Did he at least bring you drinks?

KH: *laughs* Yes, he somehow simply didn’t want to or couldn’t move, like frozen. But yes, he brought us our drinks.

Then I went to the market, and that energy carried me. I want to buy grapes and ask for the price. But the woman didn’t want to take the money. Another merchant puts double the amount of potatoes in my bag. And I’m watching what’s going on, everyone is giving me something. And you know merchants, they will rarely give something away for free. But in fact, that energy in me was so strong that they were receiving something from me, and they had a need to give something back, even if they were not consciously aware of it. 

I start going home, I feel that I’m not feeling well. I don’t know what it is, I go to get tested, some entity has attached itself. And I try to cleanse it, I can’t remove it. I only hear Baba saying: “lie down and watch the football game”.

TAT: That’s always good advice.

KH: And I watch the game, I watch it, it watches me. I feel like I’m boiling, something is wrong. And Baba: “Let it be, lie down, and watch.” And I start poking again, as the saying goes, “the devil doesn’t give you peace.”

And we wrestled all afternoon, me and that entity. And I think, okay, if I have to die, let it happen.

TAT: And how did you know it was an entity, you mentioned that you didn’t have such developed extrasensory abilities?

KH: No, I felt exactly that it was an entity, and which one.

TAT: When did the work, specifically with entities, actually begin?

KH: That work began with my partner. We were shown how to cleanse it, what types of entities there are, how to remove them. The entities themselves told us their names. When my partner, for example, connected, the Arcturians told her: “These are the Matriti.” There is nothing about that on the internet; I Google it, and it shows me Matrix, Keanu Reeves, but nothing about these Matriti entities.

TAT: Different methods for different entities?

KH: That’s right. So, with the help of that information, we successfully removed entities.

And one day, it hit me to find out more about that entity, and I saw how I had actually made an agreement with that entity in one life. Because we can make agreements with them, and when we learn what we need to, they leave.

TAT: Like… we become stronger due to that?

KH: Yes. There is no good or bad there. Because they reflect our inner states. And some beings attach themselves to show you, in a way, like a mirror, what you need to resolve. And those entities, when they feel unconditional love through you, for example, they take that back to their collective, and then those who are ready from that group of entities also feel that so they can go back to God’s light.

TAT: Do you mainly deal with entities today?

KH: No, they are simply an integral part of everything, like bacteria or viruses on the physical body, so we collect entities on the spiritual aspect, based on our emotions, lack of self-control. For example, if I get angry with you now, and I think to myself how angry I am now, I will attract an entity that will feed on that.

TAT: As I understand it, they are energetic information-creations from the astral plane. It’s not a being in the same sense as us, a conscious being. Do they have intelligence?

KH: We actually create them in the astral plane, we pollute that astral plane, yes. But they have intelligence, you know how they like to play. But on another level, you are playing with yourself; they are a little mirror; it can be said that it is our intelligence playing with us. It’s hard to define.

I know how Baba said once in an interview, when they asked him who will clean the astral plane, he said: “Those who have polluted it”.

And then I realized that I had badly polluted that astral plane somewhere, so that is now one of my tasks. Likewise, Baba showed me how in one life I was a I was a hodja and did “sh*t.” As much as I did there, that’s how much I have to do now, to work that off, what I sowed, to create balance. Back then, I didn’t have awareness and understanding, so I did circuses with energy work, and now I am aware enough to correct it.

So, our Wake Up methodology…

Consists primarily of: disruptive factors that I have to detect. A meeting with the person, to see what is disrupting them, whether psychologically, emotionally, energetically, karmic hooks of some kind…

Karmic hooks are relationships connected to people from past lives. And there we look at the pattern of what happened there, because how will you understand what is happening to you today if you don’t know the cause? That relationship, that hook, can bring something to awareness in this life. I explain the roles to the client, and then the person becomes aware of why some partner, their father, or someone, is doing something, and that’s where healing comes. And you realize there, they didn’t do anything wrong to you, they are just showing you what you did to them.

We choose these experiences before life.

TAT: Like contracts we make?

KH: Yes, and then they* tell you that you did this and that then, and before birth, they ask if you want to see the consequences of your previous action in this lifetime (*The Council of Twelve).

And you say: Yes, of course I want to. 

So the first part is detecting disruptive factors. First, of course, we work on the most difficult factors and cleanse that. And through a process of 21 days, it’s not just cleansing genetic lines and energy and vibrations, but also bringing awareness to you. People have to contact me every morning. First, we remove the harmful, we test – when it’s no longer there, cleansing is done (the clients) every night, and in the morning, they have to tell me how they feel. Are they sleepy, tired, broken… however they feel. And what triggered them the previous day.

For example, you were in a cafe, and the waitress was rude. And you get angry. Because she didn’t show you respect. And then I tell you: “We can’t be angry at her. She can’t show you disrespect if you respect yourself. So the problem is in your self-respect, and that’s your lesson.” So that process brings awareness to us about the mirrors, what people are reflecting to us, so that we can cleanse within ourselves what we have within that attracts those situations to be shown to us. That is the way of cleansing, of liberation.

TAT: When you work with clients, how long does it last?

KH: Detection is one hour. 45 minutes is removing what is found. And then for 3 weeks, we work every night, with the feedback I mentioned. You tell me how you feel, I answer: that’s because of this and that. You have to become aware of that. And then the next night, we let that part cleanse, to be released.

TAT: Do clients receive instructions, practices, meditations?

KH: They are included in the community.

TAT: What if a stranger comes who is not familiar with the community?

KH: Anyone can come; it’s up to me to open the path, and it’s up to you what you will do with that path.

TAT: What is the community called?

KH: Wake Up community. We have practitioners, as well as a classic community for all people who want to.

Practitioners are those who have a raised protective energy grid.

TAT: What are these practitioners called, Wake-uppers? Woke people?

KH: *laughs* No, we don’t have those names. Simply Wake Up community with practitioners.

TAT: How can people find you, any website?

KH: It’s in preparation. I haven’t been reaching out too much until now; I had an agreement with Baba, I told him: Baba, you send me people who need to reach me. And everything has been going by recommendations so far. I had appointments booked a month in advance. Five days a week I would work, two days I am free.

At one point, now when this big change is coming, again changes in my work, now this new method is coming that still needs to be finalized. I don’t have all the information yet; I still have to put it all together, but the indications are already there. Soon it will all be on the website.

If it’s convenient for you, I will send it to you.

There is a QR code for email and for the community; you can publish that in the magazine. Here is an invitation. There is a Viber group; there are all the lectures, workshops, everything we have done, as well as a YouTube channel. (Note to readers: the group is in the Croatian language)

TAT: The community is in Zagreb… Osijek?

KH: The community is virtual. However, Baba said, it will soon be live. That we will fill halls and work in those halls.

Because through Zoom, YouTube… you still receive those vibrations, but now that part will come where I will be physically present to give that energy directly. When I hug someone, they feel it in a different way. I can’t give details, because it’s all still in preparation.

It can be said that I received the task of going “out there.” With the community, with YouTube… I haven’t done that until now, because I wasn’t chasing clients. They came by themselves. There could have been hundreds of people, but I wouldn’t have had time for it.

That’s why I was told, you won’t work like that anymore; you will work with clients for a week, and for three weeks you will prepare this new project. I had completely dedicated myself to that spiritual work, and that started to create frustration for me. I didn’t have enough time for family, friends, for myself… Baba also said that that’s not good.

The point is, I have to go out so people can see me, because what I received from Baba, it’s not mine, it’s for the people. And that’s why everything now has to be arranged marketing-wise. So that, for example, people could come to a hotel in a hall, 300-400 people who would go through that process.

The point of that process is for people to become aware that they are the center, that other people are mirrors, and that we have to change ourselves to change the world. Everything we see outside is a reflection. People have to become aware of that. Something triggers people, and instead of going with the philosophy of “kill the messenger,” we need to see what is in us that attracts that situation to be shown to us.

TAT: So if we change something in ourselves, that should also change external circumstances?

KH: External circumstances can still happen, that people are rude, for example, but it won’t affect you anymore.

TAT: Sometimes there is a situation where something doesn’t trigger me, but the person is rude, and I simply tell them that.

KH: Sometimes, however, you will have a situation where you are a karmic edge for someone, meaning you will have to put someone in order, shake them up.

TAT: I had such a situation, and I had a feeling that I had to teach the person something.

KH: But you have to be careful that it doesn’t cause reactions in you. Be careful, if someone disrespects you, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you don’t have respect for the other person, or for yourself, but it could be something that is from your ancestors. You may have built yourself in this life on some level, but in your informational field, perhaps from your father, there is still something. So, that’s an upgrade in this new method, where if we cleanse some emotion within ourselves, we don’t only cleanse it within ourselves, but also within ancestors, their descendants, our descendants, etc.

TAT: So we come back to the story from the beginning, where if, for example, I cleanse something in myself, that can actually help parents or someone, maybe a former girlfriend and similar?

KH: Absolutely. Not a former girlfriend, here we are now talking about genetics. However, there is also the process of Relationship Healing and Cutting Ties, where we cleanse an emotion within a person, and then that can also affect former partners, or any relationship we are trying to heal.

For example, marriage. In church, you make a vow. And you get divorced. But you haven’t truly divorced, because you made a vow. And that then has to be cleansed. Sai Baba talked about that in the book “Sai Baba on Relationships.”

TAT: With that, the method is basically completed… from Reiki up until now.

KH: As the path went, things just fell away, and more complex things came. Now I have to train people to do what I did, mentor them, and I will be doing this new thing.

TAT: It will be like some kind of school.

KH: A school, yes, but we actually have an idea to create some kind of spiritual university; 

where not only this method but various methods would be encompassed, like a faculty with multiple subjects. We have sown the seed; now it needs to sprout, and now it needs to be shaped and nurtured. It’s important that people there, various people, don’t compete, like this method is better, this one is worse, because this is not the Olympics, it’s not a competition, and human ego and mind must not interfere there.