Step into the realm of spiritual insights with Dirk Van de Wijngaard, fondly known as ‘Baba’s Boy.’ In this interview, he graciously leads us into the warm embrace of Mother’s love and the profound teachings of Sathya Sai Baba. Dirk’s narratives are enchanting—simple yet profound—evoking the feeling of an intimate chat that resonates deep within. As he unveils the mysteries of divine love and delves into the depths of our inner selves, Dirk imparts timeless wisdom with a contemporary touch. In this exclusive conversation, we’re privileged to have his words and profound messages woven into the fabric of our hearts, creating a sacred space for spiritual growth. Join us on a journey where spirituality intertwines with the beautifully human, guided by the revered ‘Baba’s Boy
The Awakening Times (TAT): What is the significance of people of the same frequency coming together and how does it relate to the concept of Avataras?
Dirk Van de Wijngaard (DW): We all are nothing special. Smaller than a piece of sand in the galaxy. So I fully understand that, what defines God in us, in our heart, what we can call Sathya Sai Baba, Shirdi Sai Baba or Mohanji, is one and the same—those who know everything. When people of the same frequency with sincere Divine Love for God come together, holy works will surely happen. God Himself will activate you, like the Act- Foundation. So, bringing all this work, spreading the divine words and doing the work selflessly is precisely what an Avatar incarnates for. To activate the divinity in us! That is why Sai Baba called us: Embodiments of Divine Love! When we are fed up with the illusionary temporary pleasures of life, He will come; The Master will come.
TAT: How do you explain the process of divine activation and the need for it in our lives?
DW: Only when the child is six years old, mommy takes the child to the first class of the primary school. Not when she is 2 years or 12 years old! The child will cry, and a man with a beard will come and say: “I’m your teacher”. The child doesn’t like the teacher and maybe is even afraid of his appearance!, so the child wants to go back to her/his mummy. So, we are all fortunate that our Guru finally has come to us for example as Shirdi Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba, or Mohanji. So only when you are spiritually ready will the Master appear! We are very lucky, very lucky, very lucky! But…we are not six years old anymore. We have to advance. A tsunami of stupidity has conquered the mind. Ego, selfishness, jealousy, greediness, hatred rules over the crazy “monkey mind” of mankind and wars with hundreds of thousands innocent women and children are murdered and daily millions of innocent animals get slaughtered for ”tasty”consumption are the very very sad results of this!
So (Spiritual Master/Avatar/Sai/Mohanji) is training you for Acharya, to restore Sanatha Dharma (Righteousness) and teach you how to rescue the “lost” children of God. To awaken their hearts. Just like your stories in The Awakening Times magazine are reviving hearts.
TAT: How do Avatars speak through devotees like yourself, or us?
DW: You see, when my words touch your heart it makes me humble. Then I feel Mohanji loves you very much. Let me please address and thank only Him, because this can only be done by the Divine Grace of Mohanji. I’m nothing. It’s all Him. You don’t know how much I pray to Him to say the right word, at the right moment, in the right place, to touch your heart at the right moment, in the right place.
But in your way. It’s His words, in the right moment, in the right place, but in your way. That’s the authenticity. If there are 100 people out there, one word can even have different meanings for somebody else. That is the power of Mohanji. That’s the power of Sai.
TAT: What is the key to comprehending pure love?
DW: We always want to understand pure love. How can we know pure love? By practicing the teachings of the Guru. What can I say? Who is Shirdi Baba? Who is Sathya Sai baba?
I can give you only a fraction of His Divine Love through my own life experiences, nothing more, nothing less, because I can’t explain who Sathya Sai is. Sathya means Truth, Sai Baba means Divine Mother and Father! Who can explain? You have to go inside and FEEL Him in your hearts. Your heart is His real ashram. As Mohanji says:’My life in this body is less significant than my life in your hearts! So, you have to start in the first grade. You have to read Sai Baba’s books. You have to read “Baba”. Read slowly (with full understanding of the meanings) like the Holy books Mast and Power of Purity of Mohanji. You have to read them first, with conscience and full attention. I have read one book and one-quarter of this book in all my life. That’s all I have read. That was enough to connect within and… start to work!
TAT: But what if our minds are full of doubts?
DW: For example, one man sitting next to me in the airplane spoke to me and said: “You are so happy. I am a millionaire, but I am not happy. What is in your eyes?“ Then I told him about Sai Baba. He said: “May I come with you and see Him?“ So, he came with me to Brindavan and sat down every day next to me. After five days his ego bumped up and when Sai Baba walked by he said: “Hey, Sai Baba, I lost fifty thousand dollars not being at work, only waiting these days for you to call me in for an interview?“ Sai walked slowly by and then looked straight in his eyes and replied: “My dear child, Swami nearly waited two thousand years to see you back.“ Then he passed on. You can test this out. Close your eyes and tell sincerely in your mother language with a heart full of longing: “Shirdi (Mohanji or your Guru) , I do not understand, is it You that I am longing for? Please give me a signal or something? Then Baba will come in your dream or surely inform you in another way. He will come; He has to come, but your prayer should be sincere and pure.
TAT: What is the main misconception about God?
DW: God is not your ATM, and God will certainly not do your Home-Work. It is different from shopping. Oh, I want this, I like that– and it comes. You have to Work- to come- Home.
Mother knows precisely what her child needs! So, if you dream of a motorbike, you can buy it if you work for the needed money! Only When you have Faith and Patience and become honest, humble, thankful and sincere He will give you what you deserve. That is the most important thing. No need to ask God anything! God is a Guru, a Mast. He is deeply connected with you in all your lives you have lived! He will never do your homework, but… He will be your Guide and show you the way to your True Home! So you have to find that happiness inside of you. If you feel it, many times you will cry of Thankfulness. (words are really too limited to explain) When your mind is full of Divine Love for your Guru and your hands are in Selfless Service (seva) then His Merciful Grace and Blessings will always be with you.
Sathya Sai Baba”s last spoken words to me (when i asked His permission to leave)
were : ”Yes you go, do your duty with Sincerity and I always Bless”
As Mohanji says:”in Kali Yuga time Helping hands (like ACT-Foundation/Ammucare.org) are far better than praying lips”, and Sri Sathya Sai Baba in an interview in Puttaparthi said very seriously to me: “Selfless service to the poor, helpless and needy is the only way to serve and to please God!
TAT: How do you explain the personal and unique nature of spiritual experiences?
DW: There comes another point. It’s not my duty or task to convince anybody. See?
The dream was enough for me. When Baba appeared in my dream 25 june 1989 (before this date, I really never ever believed in any God at all!); that was the greatest miracle ever. I didn’t know it then, but my time, by the Grace of God had finally come, I can now say. I was allotted to come to that school of Divinity. That is how it goes. So to explain it’s not enough.
You can recognize a tree by its fruits and a holy man by his Works!
Some people say: “Mohanji speaks through me, Sathya Sai Baba speaks through me”
They are total egoistic idiots. They shout and pump their ego like frogs beside the Holy Lotus flower, having no idea what is in the flower! Fake devotees shouts only for their selfish reasons. When you are ready for divinity, you become like a restless bee, search in the lotus flower and discover the holy divine nectar (amritham), and become happy and silent.
For thousands of years most of us lived in ignorance. But when you get an opportunity to meet Shirdi Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba or Mohanji, who are precisely one and the same Supreme Spirit, then you will find out. But you have to find it out by yourself. I cannot convince you. It’s also not my task to convince you. I can seriously learn in the classroom and ask you to come inside. But… If you do NOT come the whole year to learn, as I did, inside the classroom and you just ask me:’tell me first what have you learned in the classroom, I can’t explain it to you in a single day or even in 50 meetings!” 2×2=4 3X3=9 To learn the ten times table you have to visit the classroom daily for a year and also have to do homework to understand it! But spirituality people want immediately to “understand” God, only talk about Moksha or fast Self Realisation!!! How can a surgeon explain to you in a few words how to do an operation? Can you do the operation after talking, debating with him or others? So many people think that they can ask and ask and with every answer they get they ask a new question and so they never end their asking and just wasting all their precious time in debatings and quarrelings to “be the best.”
It is like you’re a 16 years old girl, a pimp is in front of the door, offering you a golden necklace in his Porsche, and you tell your mommy:’’I am going with him, he loves me, you don´t love me.“ And she leaves with him. He separates you from your real family and brings you years to horrible places and you have to work on the cold streets for him, while your real loving family is missing and is searching all over for you! That is karma. That is Kali Yuga. The words from worldly men like :” I love you” have no real loving meaning at all! (In Holland 67% got divorced!) And then… when you have hungry kids and you have given your youth and body to his customers and he took all the money, he leaves you. Because you can not earn money for him anymore. You come back and grandfather, grandmother, father, mother, brothers and your sisters will embrace you with their sincere love. Your family was waiting for you all the time! . That is exactly how I felt when I met Mohanji and felt and still feel the real loving welcome in the Mohanji family.
TAT: Why do Avatars have no interest in birthday presents, does their happiness lie in their disciples taking care of others and spreading the message of love?
DW: Avatars have no interest in birthday presents. Mohanji also has no interest in birthday presents. Suppose a 5 months old baby-child sits on fathers lap. That’s okay. He takes care of changing the diapers, etc. They no longer feel like sitting on His lap when they are ten years old. When they are 15 years old they do not want to sit at all on fathers lap and shame themselves for their friends and if father jokingly asks they become even angry! When they are 15, they go to school, help with groceries and home chores. When they are 20 to 25, they can say they want to be sailors, sail for a year, and send money back home so that the mother/father doesn’t need to do all the work alone anymore. In kali Yuga many children want to get rid of their old retarded parents. Sometimes they bring them to a far away place and leave them there! That is why Avatars have to come. To tell about the Divine Love of God for His lost children. To teach them to: Help Ever Hurt Never- Service to Humanity is Service to God- Helping hands are better than praying lips- God is ONLY and best Friend-Tell Me who Your friends are and I will tell you who You are! etc.Buddha found only five disciples, Jesus eleven. Sai and Mohanji are always in search of sincere flexible grown-up children to become Acharyas to help many millions of lost children as I was one myself!
Before the 25th of June 1989, I was also crazy. Drinking, gambling, smoking, all this nonsense. Understand? So, whenever you get the opportunity to present something for an Avatar birthday celebration. Tell him from within your heart also if you are physically far away from him at home in prayer that you gave up: gossiping, being jealous, being greedy, judging others etc. When you are physically near then show photos of your seva-works, like ACT-Foundation or present TAT-magazine to show him that you spread the holy words and divine messages. He is not interested in worldly presents. The greatest present is also: ‘’Are you taking sincere care of yourself and are you selflessly helping the poor, helpless and needy?“ Are you accepting Yourself? Are you Loving Yourself? Do you understand that out of 7,5 billion people only your fingerprint is one, so unique you are! And for all: Be Happy, Be You.
TAT: How would you explain the transformative power of motherly love?
DW: People are lost in the tsunami of stupidity. The whole world is wild; the entire world wants to fight. We have ego, jealousy etc.
Jealousy, Mohanji said, is like stabbing yourself with a knife. We always think somewhere else is better. Ego, selfishness, prompting, pride, power, I want this, this is mine, this is my wife. Men are misusing their women. At first, they say I love you, and it enters your heart. Only the words penetrate your heart. Then they give you three babies. Then they leave you, or they beat you, or they drink, and they want you to go to work for them.
My father, who was an alcoholic, told my mother if you go to your parents, I will kill this boy. He meant me.
So much domestic violence is there in the world because of stupidity. There is no love. What they call love now is the desire to earn money. Or they have some small piece of land, and they become selfish or want to dominate women.
Sathya Sai Baba and Shirdi Sai Baba develop motherly love in the child because a mother will only fight for her family’s rights; they will fight for her children. Even a tiny pussy cat, if she has five babies and a big dog or tiger is coming, she will first kill herself, go on to fight for her children. A male dog would run away. A male cat would run away because they can find another lady, understand? Sai Baba always said that the mother is the wealth of the earth. Sai Baba often emphasized the selflessness of a mother and her nurturing care for children.
TAT: What does embodying pure love and goodness in every aspect of life, as described by Sathya Sai Baba, entail in the face of challenging thoughts or experiences, and how can one navigate through such situations with spiritual grace?
DW: To do good work, to do good, to speak good, to walk good, to see good, to talk good, to think good. And if nasty thoughts come, you’re not worse. For example,
One man, a very holy disciple, went to a forest. He took a room at the end of the forest.
He was only getting visions of porn and sexual abuse. He told his guru: „I will commit suicide now.“ Guru said: „No, your love is so pure. This is the energy in the forest from hundreds of years ago when there were prostitutes, and there were men who misused these prostitutes. The spark of that got onto you. That’s why this strange dream is coming. It has nothing to do with you.„
So, if you think you´re not good enough, that there is no work for you, or why God should select you-that Maya (Sanskrit: “illusion”) is. It doesn’t want to lose you. The temporary world of pleasure doesn’t want to lose you.
If Mohanji sees you doing selfless work because He knows everything and is with you, then He’s happy. He’s happy. We should have Guru in our hearts. To that level, we need to come.
Many who surround Sathya Sai Baba and Shirdi Sai Baba ask them if they can start some projects. They say yes, you can begin. They ask many times. And when they should start, they don´t. They only ask permission. Permission, permission, permission. They never start. And when they begin, if there is an obstacle, they drop it. They come up with another idea.
So, start. Do good, be good, see, hear, walk, talk, and write well. Perfect. That is the greatest gift you can give to Baba. Because you don’t know how long you´ll live. So, if you have that energy, purity, and sincerity inside you, do it full-time. Give it all.
I always say people should come in full-time rather than part-time. If you show up full-time, then you will feel it fully.
To boys, I said if you feel the divinity in your heart fully, then even an orgasm is nothing compared to that. No, showing off; you are entirely the whole day in this sort of orgasm. It is the beautiful orgasm you have for eternity. That is what I mean.
In the beginning, of course, you are attracted to the body, but from the body, you have to go to the inner view from interview to inner- view. That is most important. That is why Sai Baba should have lived 13, 14, 15 years more, but he was fed up. He said, „Oh frogs, 60 years you sit with me and you learn nothing, now go home.“ (laughter)
TAT: How did your relationship with Sathya Sai Baba evolve after he fell ill, and how did the guidance and connection with Mohanji become a source of profound love and joy in your life, surpassing the miracles you witnessed earlier?
DW: After I started the Rescue Foundation, I did not run to Baba anymore. I did not want to see Him suffering. I knew if I saw him sick, I would commit suicide.
But He wanted me to continue. I’m forever grateful to Sai Baba for His coming into my dream. He brought me to Puttaparthi out of nothing; He let me be His student and witness all His wondrous works. Another great thing is He brought me to Mohanji.
And once again, I feel like a child. So, all the miracles that happened are nothing compared to the love Mohanji gives me now. And I love meeting you and talking about all of this. This makes me immensely happy.
TAT: How did your perspective change, and what emotions did you experience when a skeptic who initially dismissed Sai Baba as a “magician” witnessed firsthand the materialization of a brooch during an interview? Additionally, can you share more about your personal encounters with Baba’s miracles, such as the spontaneous appearance of Vibhuti in a photograph and the unique photograph capturing Baba and Mohanji in a prayer-like pose?
DW: Once, a man who did not believe in Sai Baba came from Holland to see me in India. He thought I was in an orphanage, that was part of one of my projects. I was not there. I was organizing Diwali with Baba. So, I told him where I was. He said: „I want to see you, not this tiny magician.“ And he’s a huge man, massive, two meters and 150 kg.
And then he said: „I don’t believe in all this nonsense.“ I said, okay, no problem. The next day, he wanted to see my projects and asked me to be present. I said, I’m sorry, I must stay with my Guru. He’s the initiator of my projects. He is loading me up. He is my battery. I have to stay with Him. So you can go alone.
He said no, I want to hear Your stories. I told him, no need because you don’t believe Him.
But he came anyway. And he stayed for a couple of days. The day before he left, he said: „Do you know what, I will show everybody sitting here, these idiots, that this is just a magician. This materialization is nothing. A magician can also do that. He is fake. How can I come into that interview room?“
I said: „See these hundred thousand people, they all want to go in that interview room. But I will give you a big chance, say a prayer.“
Later, he returned and asked: „In which language do I have to speak? Because I don’t know English.“ I said Dutch, like you’re talking to your mother. He said: „Really?!“
„Yeah, really.“ I said. „So, tell Him what you told me. Tell Him He’s fake, He’s a magician.“ (laughter) „ I will take him by his leg and hang him in front of all these hundred thousand people.“ He said.
So what happened after? He said: „Dirk, I did it, I asked him, but I still don’t believe it.“
The following day, his last darshan, we got the interview. We went into the room, and Sai Baba turned to me and said: „Boy, who is this? A friend of yours?“ I said: „Yes, Swami.“ Baba called him to come closer. My friend was scared. He was sitting at the back against the wall, and Sai Baba wanted him to sit in front of him! Then Swami materialized a brooch, slowly, in front of his eyes, a brooch with small diamonds right in front of his nose. ( and my friends face got red, blue, all colors) Swami turned over the brooch in his left hand and said: „Oh look, Swami forgot the pin!“ Everybody in the interview room was looking at Baba.
He looked at my friend again and said: „Look, look, there comes the pin.“ He pointed with His finger and materialized it. You could see a pin materializing/growing very slowly. And then Baba said: „Oh look, there is the pin.“ Then he gave it to one of the ladies who were there.
My friend could not speak for three or four days after that. He was blustered.
When we got outside, I said: „Could you get Him? Could you get Him? Did you see how He did it?“ I was messing with Him.
There is one more.
One time, a married couple came into the interview room. Swami congratulated the man and his wife on the celebration of their wedding anniversary . At the end of the interview, the man took his camera (and cameras were not allowed in the interview room) and innocently asked: “Swami, may I take a picture of you, my wife, and the group?“ Swami said: „Why do You want to take a picture? Then you are not in the picture. You will not be in the picture on your wedding anniversary. Please come here, come here.“ He came and sat down with his wife in front of Baba. Baba waived His hand, as always when materializing objects, and the picture appeared right there! In the materialized photo:The man standing on the left side of Baba and the wife on the right side, Swami beautiful in the middle of them and all others besides them left and right!
He congratulated them, waived His hand again and materialized hot ladoos (spherical sweets from the Indian subcontinent ). Hot, hot ladoos in His hand. Swami also gave me one in my hand and it was boiling hot!. That was Sathya Sai Baba.
Yesterday I also found an old photograph of Baba; I didn’t even know I had it anymore. Vibhuti had camen on this photo in my puja room in Holland decades ago. Some people who knew about it came and with their fingers touched the photo.
I said no. From that moment on, I kept it for myself, and if I heard somebody was sick, I gave a little bit of this spontaneous materialized Vibhuti—without the need to mention how it was materialized.
Now, another miracle. I had a camera, and I always brought the film role in it to the photoshop in Holland for the printing of the photos. It differs from these new cameras, where you can see the photo immediately. This was in 1992. The photographer from the studio always ask me: „Why are you going to this Indian man with this negro hair?“ I said: „I can’t explain to you sir, that is too much.“
One time, he opened the file with photos where he developed a few small ones and big ones, and he said: „Sir, did you notice that in this photo, on the wall, there is this African man with his hand lifted?“ I said: „No, this is me, I’m with the Sai Geeta, the elephant of Baba.“ He said: „No, no, the man is standing here in the right corner of the wall.“
In the picture, Baba stands with his hand up, and Mohanji stands next to it like Jesus. Hands together like when praying. Then I took this photo to Sathya Sai Baba in Puttaparthi and showed him. I said: „Swami, you’re on the wall.“ Swami said:„ Yes, yes, keep it. You don’t need to tell everybody. It’s just for you, my child.“
TAT: Why do you think Sai Baba chose to materialize objects like Vibhuti in front of people?
DW: Sai Baba always materialized Vibhuti. Because the meaning is you came from ashes, and you go to ashes. He used to say: “A good man or woman is a God’s man or woman.” A good person is a God´s person. All good work is God’s work! That is why He was materializing in front of people, not for the show or fame. Often He also said:” In Kali Yuga nobody is interested in God, that’s why i have to show them materializations otherwise Nobody will come at all!
TAT: Can you share more about your experience when Sai Baba appeared to you in the form of an old man in Nepal?
DW: When I was in a temple place called Dakshinkali in Nepal, I looked about 100 meters away, and noticed there was a very old man leaning on a stick in his hand. He was in his nineties, with a beard like Santa Claus and beautiful eyes. I saw him in the distance, walking slowly with a stick. When touching Kali, you have to take your shoes off. Usually, foreigners are not allowed there, but they always let me. Why? I don’t know. I have worshipped Mahakali since 1990 as I feel her as my Holy mother. (also Devi Amma in Bangalore ofcourse)
So, I took my shoes off and looked up, and there was this very old man (maybe 95 years old or even more!) standing before me! He was 100 meters away and suddenly within a split second appeared right before me! He raised his right hand up and chanted OM three times. And I looked into his eyes. Mina was there and her sister too. I said: „This is Baba, this is Baba!“ They didn’t see anything!!!
I told him: „Oh my god, you are Sai Baba, may I come with you, may I go with you?“
He repeated Om. Three times. Then he put his hand in a very small cloth bag he carried with pure white rice grains in it , took out a small Rudraksha bead, and gave it to me. I said: „Swami, I want to go with you; I want to go with you.“
As I told you, I have only read one small book, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa written by M. In it, there is a story of one of the disciples of Ramakrishna, who went to the cave to realize himself. And I was longing to go to that cave. So, I thought that was my moment to go with him. A few days before In Puttaparthi Sai Baba came, put his hand on me, and said: „Not yet.“ Then I looked for 2 seconds at Mina, but when I looked back the old holy man with the beautiful white long beard had disappeared!.
Later, I heard Shirdi Sai Baba telling me: Idiot, why do you think I took the form of Sathya Sai Baba? You idiot! I gave you so many experiences; why do you want to go to a cave now?
Mohanji told me the same thing, of course.
I was walking the Dakshinkali trail, walking up the many stairs leading to the top of the mountain . I walked and walked, and I got all sweaty. It was very hot that day, and I was nearly on the top, and the same old man was standing there on top!!!, with his right hand up just like Sai Baba used to hold it, and again the Holy old man chanted three times OM.
I called Mina again, but they went on. With his long white beard. I have never seen such a beautiful bright light shining glowing man. He took his stick from the left to his right hand and walked step by step down the stairs—one by one. With the third step-down, he vanished. Nobody saw, nobody noticed.
I was looking through that tiny hole of a beautiful rudraksha, I think it is at least a hundred years old Rudraksha, and then I said: “Sai, if you want me to wear this, I also need a rope, also 100 years old.“ While thinking of it, I felt like something was itching in my left hand. And it circled, it circled, it circled. I looked in my hand, I said: „Mina, Mina, look, a rope, a rope came!“ The rope was there. Ancient rope. It must be a hundred years old. I put it through Rudraksha, and it fit perfectly. But then I got scared.
Next day I left for India as I wanted Sai Baba’s confirmation. I carefully put it in an envelope. Swami took it with him, and I said full of love to Him: „Swami, it was You who came to me in Nepal yesterday? It was You Swami?„ Baba said: “Yes, it was me… Who Else“
TAT: What do you believe was the purpose of this form, and how did it impact you personally?
DW: The meaning is you have to be full time concentrated. If you’re not you have no eyes to see. If Mohanji gives you a word or a look in your eyes and you don’t understand “”the hint”” it can take years for a new hint!. And they can say, I’m not seeing, I’m not seeing. So your concentration, your 100% single-pointed focus, is most NECESSARY to feel and understand the hint/guidance of the Guru. It is like falling in love. You can do everything, but your mind is with your lover!.
I see Mohanji like an eagle. He flies over seven and a half billion fishes and searches for some who can become full time devotees/friends/Acharyas ! And to give them a purpose of rescuing innocent children from this temporary illusionary fake world. Each with his own qualities and no jealousy whatsoever! If everybody would be a pilot, then the world would be boring. If everybody would be a cook, it would also be boring. So, a car is not only made of a wheel, a tire, or an engine. If somebody thinks I’m not good enough, no, no, you’re good! (it is just a trick of the monkey mind!, who has controlled you many lives by “”fulfilling and creating more and more worldly desires, which made you his slave and now is afraid to lose his control over you!) Even a 1 dollar cent screw in the piston of a very costly Porsche engine is very valuable. If it breaks loose, the whole engine of the 1 million expensive Porsche car will not work!!! So to become valuable all children are important and equal in the eyes of our Divine Loving Guru!
TAT: Can you elaborate on the significance of keeping certain experiences and information between an individual and God?
DW: Once, Baba said Michael Jackson was coming and not to tell anybody. The next day, everybody was talking about Michael Jackson coming. There were 20,000 people at the airport in Puttaparthi. Later, people came and said “Swami, you promised Michael Jackson was coming.”
And Swami said: „Yes, but I also told you not to tell anyone.“ It is a huge lesson.
What is between you and your Guru stays between you and your Guru. You have to become pure from the heart and humble. You cannot learn from books. If he whispers things, it’s meant only for you. You’re all different. One is a pilot. One is a plumber. So, according to the work you have to do, Guru will whisper to you. Everybody cannot do the same thing.
Some people believe that Sai Baba will do everything. Or that Mohanji will take care of everything. That is how you respect your Guru who comes to you to wake up the divinity in your heart? And do you know that 99%, I dare to tell you, of the Sai Baba devotees are like that? He will do it. He will do it. He will do it. Will He? He can. I told Sai Baba: „The world is nothing more than a water drop at your nose, Swami. Why are you giving so much love to the world?“ Swami replied: “Because my children are longing for me.“ Sai told me.
And He knows when the child is in the circus, it forgets where its home is. It becomes tiring when it’s fed up with the donkey riding and all these things. It wants Mommy to take him back home! Next time, it wants to go back to the circus again.
But the circus is not reality. You cannot stay forever in the circus of pretensions, circus of false promises, circus of jealousy, hatred, ego, hate, temporary pleasures, circus of domestic violence, circus of alcohol, circus of porn, circus of divorces, circus of lies, circus of wars, murderings of innocent women, men and children, circus of slaughtering millions of innocent animals, birds, even dogs, cats, holy snakes , horses, holy cows, moneys they consume and tell their children that it is necessary to eat for the “vitamins” , circus of pollution of the holy sea and their wonderful living species , fishes and plants etc. in it, circus of cutting forest trees for luxury furniture etc. etc.
So it doesn’t matter if you take 200 lives, 2000 lives in the horrible circus of Karma-lives. As long as God’s children are longing for Him, Avatars as Rama, Krishna, Shirdi Sai, Sathya Sai and Mohanji will come in a small human form (if they come in their real form, we all will immediately be blinded and burnt immediately by the Light and Heat of their Sincere Power of PURITY) to restore Sanatha Dharma and guide their children who longing for them back to their True Home. My sincere humble Thanks to Shirdi Sai Baba and Sathya Sai Baba for sending Mohanji to Holland to pick me up and for accepting us into the warm Mohanji-family! Sincere thanks and respect for Lea, Petra, Hein and all other volunteers of this wonderful TAT-magazine, who interviewed me again and helped me with bringing over the inside FEELINGS of our experiences to touch the hearts of the readers! My humble pranams at the Divine Lotus Feet of BrahmaRishi Mohanji, my Guru, Guardian Guide and Goal.
