Author: Azur Ekić
The following is an interview with Vedran, a prominent healer, a spiritual channel from Croatia.
The Awakening Times (TAT): If I understood correctly while reading about you, one of the key moments on your journey as a healer was the appearance of Archangel Michael.
Vedran Mikuličić (VM): Indeed, it was one of the key moments. His appearance practically pushed me down this path. However, there were years (2009, 2012, and 2015) when I experienced significant life crashes, and those were always the true turning points. Of course, this was a sort of divine intervention. 2012 was particularly significant when I experienced the presence of LOVE, and to this day, I believe it’s somehow connected to Sai Baba.
TAT: Love…in what sense? Romantic love?
VM: No. Divine love that cannot be compared to anything. I was in a depressive state, wondering what my purpose was, why I was alive, and feeling useless. I had a deep cry, and at one point, an inexplicable presence of love appeared in my room.
TAT: How did you experience that, through feelings or visually?
A: Both, and also auditory. I heard within myself, in my head: “You will help thousands of people; that is your task and role.” And I was shown a vision of myself standing in white clothes, working in a large hall full of people. At the time, it wasn’t clear to me, and I asked this presence how I would do that, what it was. I received the answer that I didn’t have to worry and that in due time I would receive all the instructions, that I shouldn’t think too much about it.
However, since I wasn’t feeling well, I have ignored this encounter and have continued with my old way of life. I was involved in software development; I had two companies, and both failed, surprise, surprise. I forgot all about the fateful divine encounter, and then the same situation repeated itself in 2015. I was again in a purposeless state, and then I remembered that I had actually received guidance for my life beforehand. At that moment, I cried out to God deep in my heart and said that I would do everything necessary and that I would do what was asked of me.
A few months later, things started to unravel rapidly. I suddenly received an inheritance that had been pending for 20 years, but it happened right then during this phase, very interestingly. I started working on myself a lot, and that money allowed me to pay for various sessions and treatments. Although, it has to be said, I also spent a lot of that money trying to escape from myself and from what my purpose was. So, in a way, I was going to therapy with the help of the money, but again, I used the same money to avoid various situations that I couldn’t face.
Around Easter 2017, I was in Split (I was living in Zagreb at the time but was with my family in Split for Easter). I heard Michael’s voice, and he told me that I would return to Split and live there.
TAT: How did you know it was him?
VM: I simply knew. When such a presence appears, it’s within us, that connection, and when someone like that appears, the ego is shattered, and you simply know who it is. There were several such contacts, and I somehow always knew who it was.
Anyway, his presence was strong enough to shake me. There was no other message, just “You will return to Split, and your life will change.” That was an indication to go in that direction. But since I had a company in Zagreb, acquaintances, employees, I actively rejected such a thing.
TAT: Surely that was huge encouragement, after all, it’s Michael!
VM: Yes…but I still actively rejected it. In the meantime, a few months later, my life started to change because I’ve started a relationship with Kristina. Soon after, I went bankrupt and was forced to return to Split. I quickly gathered my things and moved in with her. That was His doing, His execution.
At the end of 2017, I received encouragement again from Michael—this time a bit more gentle—and from other people who channel angels to start with healing. I started in December of that year. Then, I had experiences where someone would take over me and my hands and control what I should do.
TAT: What were the instructions?
VM: There were no instructions; I would just surrender. Today I know what that means; I know that I am a channel. It’s not any technique like Reiki or similar. This transcends those techniques because it requires a different level of surrender. When a person is a channel, any technique can pass through them.
In the beginning, I worked for free, and I did things that I hadn’t seen described anywhere, in any book. I would see what was happening in the past, where the trauma originated, which organ was affected, etc.
TAT: Do you always see that, or only when you want to?
VM: I see that when there is a “contract.” When a “client” comes to me who has a desire for healing, then a kind of contract is created between us. I have the ability to use it always, but I rarely use it. Only if someone stops me on the street, asks for something, help, only then do I open that agreement, contract, and mental images and information come to me that I need to tell the person in front of me.
TAT: You mentioned working for free, donations… some people say you shouldn’t work for free, that you cause harm, get involved karmically… what is your opinion? Because people sometimes get angry if you don’t want to work for free.
VM: There are two levels. The general level and the private – personal level. The general level… essentially, on a general level, I am not for giving for free, and my experience has shown me that; it negatively affected my finances; I was barely surviving. Only when I started to value my work did finances start to come, but people also started coming.
And privately… that’s your karma. My karma and dharma are connected to giving. Due to past lives, my natal chart shows that I have to give and donate a lot. But there must be a balance so that a person can live well, rest, and so on.
TAT: How do you know what our karma is, whether we should give for free or not?
VM: It can be checked astrologically. Either with Eastern astrology, Jyotish, or Western astrology. My chart says that I am a healer and that I have to give a lot. But also that it is important to find the right balance, otherwise, a disbalance will occur.
But since that is my dharma, you are always supported on that path. The more I gave for free, the more people started coming to paid sessions. In a way, it’s also a marketing tool, but I didn’t start doing it for that reason; I just wanted to give, but people still recognized me because of it and started coming. In doing so, I received detailed instructions from my guides when and how things should be done.
Many people, healers, have a problem with giving and receiving. Many of them cannot survive. This can then create a disbalance that leads to depression. And you create a karmic problem for yourself and for them. It is good to give for free, but a person must find a balance that works.
TAT: What about healing friends?
VM: I would never work on friends. It is a practice not to do that because we are emotionally involved. And because of that, the ego can easily get involved, and we can draw wrong conclusions. I did a little work on my wife, mother, father, but other than that, I haven’t worked on anyone else. And whenever I did, it didn’t turn out ideal because there is that emotional component.
TAT: And prayers, we can pray for everyone, I assume?
VM: Partially. Personally, I don’t do anything unless someone has asked me or if I don’t feel an inner prompting, through spiritual guides, an instruction to perform a task. I had several scenarios where my guides told me I had to contact a certain person and offer them a treatment. Every time I did that, they became regular clients, and their lives changed through me. But those are rarities, only 5-6 people in 7 years. Even when someone comes to me and tells me something, and I realize through the story that the person has gotten entangled in some illusion, I don’t interfere because I don’t know what lesson the person will draw from it.
TAT: What interests me is also the break you had, from ages 23-32. A distancing from spirituality. How did that break happen, and do you think a break can be useful?
VM: Everything is useful in life, and everything is planned purposefully. During that break, my focus was on the material, but I needed that; through that dissatisfaction and suffering living a stricly material life, I actually received a cry for the spiritual world.
TAT: Besides Michael, which contacts with spiritual beings were turning points?
VM: With Sai Baba. In March of this year. It started happening after meeting Kristijan Husarek.
He mentioned Baba, but I didn’t know anything about Baba because I hadn’t focused on the Indian part of spirituality, so to speak. Shortly after meeting and working with Kristijan, Baba appeared to me in my room, mentally, just like Michael and others. That night, Baba gave me information about the changes that awaited me in life, changes in society that could be expected, some specifics related to my work and path, service, and so on.
On one hand, it was great that Baba addressed me; on the other hand… fck, this is getting serious! Because the tasks he mentioned didn’t seem easy at all. And in the 6-9 months since Baba came, I’ve had more changes in my life than in the last 5 years combined. Greater expansion, growth, transformation, changes on a weekly basis; they were hard to keep up with; I would almost fall into depression sometimes; I had to change what I had been doing up until then incredibly quickly. I went back to one-on-one work, which I hadn’t done for 3 years, and I received the prices I had to set.
TAT: He determined the prices?
VM: Yes, he told me what I had to set and how much. He gave me the task of more humanitarian work, but also a wider range of prices. In my work now there is everything: there is free work, work at prices accessible to most, and the third part—one-on-one, which is more expensive, but is intended for people of a different niche, so entrepreneurs, successful people, celebrities, etc.
That also blew my mind, when Baba told me that one day politicians and celebrities would come to me. Because he has a task for those people, for them to change in their hearts and thus influence change in society.
So much has happened, the price is one of them, which I had to accept. A new way of working. I started working with balms.
TAT: I’m interested in that, programmed products. Are there any plans for that?
VM: That’s something very recent, and I don’t have much feedback from people yet. It’s only been the last 10 days. I gave those balms to many people who I received information that I should give them to. But I expect the same effect as with everything else, because if I work on water, why not on balm?
TAT: We talked about prices, but it’s worth mentioning that there are also free videos.
VM: Yes, Baba insisted on that, that anyone can access healing and reach Him through me. There is a Facebook group with many meditations. (Note: it’s in Croatian – so interested people from this region can comment for a link)
There are about thirty meditations there, and anyone can access them. People can’t say that it’s not available for free.
Secondly, there is a program that I call the Rapid Consciousness Transformation Program. There are three options: 40-90-150 euros per month, basic, extended, and advanced. Each of them offers more and more. So we have options for 0 euros, then 40-90-150, and then two categories of individual work, 600 and 1200.
TAT: That information is on the website?
TAT:A question about balance. How do you integrate this healing work with Western life? Some healers isolate themselves too much and find it difficult to find balance, especially here in the Balkans.
VM: My experience has shown… In the beginning, it was difficult for me; many people criticized me; there are still people who send messages saying I’m a fraud, threats of imprisonment, and similar things. What has changed is about me and my work; after Baba appeared, I got a sense of the importance of my work, and then I don’t care what anyone says. I am completely dedicated to what I do. And those rumors mean nothing to me. Many healers get stuck in not allowing themselves to enjoy it. Baba told me that I must have a sense of financial security, a sense of abundance.
The balance between helping people and enjoying the material has shown itself to me as a win-win situation. But this is not a problem only with healers. We grew up with ancestors who had a very hard time getting anything and worked hard, and they grew up in a mode of poverty their whole lives.
TAT: Yes, I also know people who don’t allow themselves pleasure and worry about money even when they have it. They don’t even want to afford a massage.
VM:The basis of why people don’t know how to enjoy and allow themselves that is distrust in God and life.
Here’s my example. My grandparents, on both sides, were hungry and worked themselves to death. What they went through, we can’t imagine. In later life, they gained a lot materially. However, they still turned off the heating. They would turn off the candles in the evening. You would FREEZE in the evening. Even though they had a lot of money at that point! But the old povety habits were still there. And I grew up in that and inherited those patterns that didn’t allow me to be well, to have money, to expand. What is important for all people to know, healers and others, is that matter serves spirituality. I don’t mean that we should exploit matter in the sense of pollution, but when we use it, if we already have it, that we use it for our greatest good and the greatest good of society. If I didn’t have a steady financial flow, I wouldn’t be able to do so much humanitarian work and so many free sessions, to help so many people for free.
I vowed that I would use all the money to be able to help people EVEN MORE, travel, hold workshops…
TAT: What about people who simply don’t believe in energy healing, how do we help them?
VM: Nothing. You can’t do anything; that’s their karma. You can only give them some information, give them links, and leave…
In the past, I shared thousands of meditations for free. And one lady contacted me, sick, and said, “That’s great, but I don’t have money.” I say, “Here, it’s free.” She says, “No, no, thank you.” Do you understand? Those are just excuses. They don’t want help; they want to complain. Until they experience a fall, like many of us have experienced, they won’t move. Many people need an NDE (near death experience) or something similar to shake them up.
TAT: Or we could just refer them to science, psychotherapy…
VM: Yes, and that may be the best way to help them. At one point in my life, I went to psychotherapy intensively for a year and a half, and I really dedicated myself to it, talking about childhood traumas, disappointments, betrayals, and that helped me.
TAT: That is perhaps especially important for empaths, people sensitive to other people’s feelings, who can literally feel other people’s problems.
VM:Yes, my experience with empaths is that they are people who have a lot of earlier traumas and have a porous psychic/mental body. And then you need to strengthen that psychic body; then you can feel other people’s issues, but it won’t bother you, it won’t irritate you. You strengthen that body, like you strengthen and maintain a muscle. But that part when you have to strengthen it, that’s where you have to work a bit. For example, I still feel various things from the environment, but it doesn’t bother me anymore.
TAT: What I’m interested in for the end, what message do you have for people who have lost hope, because of illness, money, breakups… Your workshop was called Divine Grace that Cleanses and Heals. Some have lost hope in grace, they feel like they are in some kind of hell.
VM: Nothing happens by chance and without Grace. Even the ninth circle of hell is not without grace, because it is also there to try to awaken us. If we are in that hell, it means that we do not see our value and are not on the path of our soul. And then the soul, through the material world, creates challenges and forces the person to question it. That’s how it was for me and many others. For healing to truly happen, complete trust and surrender are necessary. Let happen what is necessary for my highest good, whatever that is. And that can be bankruptcy, loss of a job, a relationship, etc. People would like to heal, but they are not ready to make the oath: “I will do everything. Absolutely everything. Whatever that means. For me to start on my path.”
TAT: There is that Key and Peele sketch when God comes and says, “You will get everything, but all you have to do is renounce all material possessions,” and then they say, “Well, are you sure?”… (link for the curious: https://shorturl.at/cNn81)
VM: Oh, I know that one. Well, that’s what happens in most cases, and as long as that’s how it is with people, as long as they don’t have trust, they will learn through suffering.
Listen, when I was a programmer, I used to work until 5-6 in the morning; I had a lot of burnouts. In a way, that’s like committing suicide. …and that’s what most people are doing. In one way or another… and we have to get out of that.
TAT: What are some plans for the future, I mean, how can people outside of the Balkan region find out about you and contact you?
VM: I will soon be working on a new website; it will be in Croatian and English, and it will be named after my spiritual name – Premananda Sai.
Note from The Awakening Times: You’ve heard it dear readers! As soon as we get information about Premananda Sai’s new website and future projects, that can be useful to you, so you can get healing as well and access to meditations, you will be notified!
